Posts by Joe Grundy

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Got an interview

by LouBelle in

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as some of you know, i had no job last year, then finally got something in an industry that i know nothing about.

the environment and people haven't been the best, but i had to stick it out and hope that things would improve.

i have kept my eye and ears open for opportunities more in my field of expertise - which is print advertising.. i sent through my cv for a job i saw advertised in the newspaper for an advertising sales rep - applied and now i have an interview to go too tomorrow.. i've learnt not to get my hopes up - i am glad for the interview and i hope it goes well..

Joe Grundy

Wishing you the very best for this, and for the future.

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JW 'Scriptural Divorce' -v- Muslim 'Sharia Divorce'

by Joe Grundy in

i just read this bbc article about sharia divorce in cases of domestic violence:.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22044724.

the issues raised seemed very similar to me to what jws teach about 'scriptural divorce' in these circumstances.. misogynistic (of course), dangerous and despicable..

Joe Grundy

Well, shamelessly bumping my own thread, I found this an interesting comparison.

'Thinkers' amongst us may find it interesting too.

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JW 'Scriptural Divorce' -v- Muslim 'Sharia Divorce'

by Joe Grundy in

i just read this bbc article about sharia divorce in cases of domestic violence:.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22044724.

the issues raised seemed very similar to me to what jws teach about 'scriptural divorce' in these circumstances.. misogynistic (of course), dangerous and despicable..

Joe Grundy

I just read this BBC article about Sharia divorce in cases of domestic violence:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22044724

The issues raised seemed very similar to me to what JWs teach about 'scriptural divorce' in these circumstances.

Misogynistic (of course), dangerous and despicable.

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I called the police.

by LouBelle in

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i stay at my grandmother's house and pay a little rent to her (r500) as it is all i can afford.

i do however buy and take care of all my own food, washing etc.. this morning at 6 am, my bedroom door opend, slammed shut, heard the key turn a couple of times, open and slam shut again.

i woke up with a fright as that has never happened....first thought is someone is in the house.

Joe Grundy

LouBelle

You have a PM.

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Just Got My Memorial Invite

by Tater-T in

so hey everyone i knew i couldn't type out the experince i just had at the door.. the video ain't much better.. but i hope you enjoy.

this just happened... at least i didn't feel guilty after this visit... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivu6c3yc7vu.

Joe Grundy

(I never was a dub).

They called at my house last week, which was a bit of a surprise because I thought I might have been marked down on FS records as 'argumentative' or 'not worth the effort'.

When they call, there are times when I'm in the mood for (and it's convenient) a discussion and I'm happy to invite them in for a cup of tea and spend time with them. (We may never get to know the results of these discussions).

Other times, it's just not convenient or I'm not in the mood - as in 'why should I waste my time and energy when it's as much use as banging my head against a brick wall?'.

But there's another reaction, and I seem to be thinking of this more often - and I've seen it discussed here on JWN. It's something like 'Do I really want to shake their happiness, or at least their settled life, by provoking them to question their religion?'.

My latest dub callers were senior citizens (maybe husband and wife), 'beige' in dress and personality, if you know what I mean. They both had almost innocent smiles. I told them fairly quickly that I knew who they were, that I wasn't interested but commended them for their efforts. I just could not be nasty to them, nor even politely challenge their teachings.

I was surprised (I've not had this response before) when the man said 'Well, thank you for being polite to us', they both gave a nice but weary genuine smile, and I got the impression that they were trudging their weary way through FS. Who am I to challenge them at this stage in their lives? Maybe WTBTS is the only thing they have to hold on to.

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Just Shows What Religion Can Do

by Joe Grundy in

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a child rape victim is sentenced to 100 lashes.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21595814.

i don't know about you, i'm an atheist, but i cannot accept that any religion can justify this inhumane, brutal, wicked treatment of a child victim of rape.. there is no excuse for this behaviour on the part of a supposedly civilsed government.

it has fuck all to do with religion, it has all to do with humanity and being a 'human being'.. i have written to my mp and hope to follow this up through the un charter on childrens' rights.. anyone here booked a 'maldives luxury holiday'?.

Joe Grundy

This seems to me nothing more or less than state-initiated child abuse.

It has nothing to do with religion or anything else.

As a human being, and as a father of a daughter who was the victim of a teenage rape, this offends me and I protest it.

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Just Shows What Religion Can Do

by Joe Grundy in

jw
friends

a child rape victim is sentenced to 100 lashes.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21595814.

i don't know about you, i'm an atheist, but i cannot accept that any religion can justify this inhumane, brutal, wicked treatment of a child victim of rape.. there is no excuse for this behaviour on the part of a supposedly civilsed government.

it has fuck all to do with religion, it has all to do with humanity and being a 'human being'.. i have written to my mp and hope to follow this up through the un charter on childrens' rights.. anyone here booked a 'maldives luxury holiday'?.

Joe Grundy

The lack of reaction to this story is interesting - and discouraging.

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Just Shows What Religion Can Do

by Joe Grundy in

jw
friends

a child rape victim is sentenced to 100 lashes.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21595814.

i don't know about you, i'm an atheist, but i cannot accept that any religion can justify this inhumane, brutal, wicked treatment of a child victim of rape.. there is no excuse for this behaviour on the part of a supposedly civilsed government.

it has fuck all to do with religion, it has all to do with humanity and being a 'human being'.. i have written to my mp and hope to follow this up through the un charter on childrens' rights.. anyone here booked a 'maldives luxury holiday'?.

Joe Grundy

A child rape victim is sentenced to 100 lashes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21595814

I don't know about you, I'm an atheist, but I cannot accept that any religion can justify this inhumane, brutal, wicked treatment of a child victim of rape.

There is no excuse for this behaviour on the part of a supposedly civilsed government. It has fuck all to do with religion, it has all to do with humanity and being a 'human being'.

I have written to my MP and hope to follow this up through the UN charter on childrens' rights.

Anyone here booked a 'Maldives Luxury Holiday'?

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I challenged a Dub out in service

by LisaRose in

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i was sitting in my car, finishing an egg mcmuffin before going to the grocery store when i noticed a dubbie going around talking to people in the parking lot.

i thought the chances were good she would approach me, and i decided i was going to do more than decline to take the pamphlet.. after i verified she was a jw, i said that i was a former member.

i said "do you know what the awake said in 1969?

Joe Grundy

(I never was a dub).

Yesterday they called at my door. A guy in his 70s, a lady in her 60s. I was suffering from the flu and I really was not in the mood, and I was ready to wade in.

But - they were polite and were smiling and looked happy - and do you know what? I asked myself 'Do I really want to say things that might destroy - for them - what is the basis of their lives?

So I didn't. I smiled and said 'no thanks' and they smiled and said 'thanks for the smile and being polite' and they moved on.

They are not my responsibilty and to be honest if at their stage in life they want to cling to their craziness but it makes them happy, well, so be it.

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The Other Side of the Indian Rape Story

by fulltimestudent in

i'm posting this story, not to defend an indefensible act, but to try to provide some balance.

the fact is that so many indians exist in a poverty so deep that it's difficult for westerners to even understand.

the youngest of the rapists in the now world known rape story, according to this uk, independent newspaper story, grew up in that world that seems hopeless.

Joe Grundy

(Entering the fray).

I know a little about rape. As a cop for 30 years I investigated more cases than I want to remember. On a personal level, my daughter was raped.

This was an horrific attack and should be dealt with in such a way as to reflect the horror.

But it's also an opportunity to discuss why it happened. Why are attitudes to victims (and potential victims) such that these things happen? It's not only women that get raped, but why in so many cultures are women so devalued? Why is there a culture of child brides in so many places (not excluding the US)?

Why do so many fundamentalists in so many religions glory in the OT accounts of genocide, etc., but more relevant to this issue, the capture and enslavement of young women as sexual slaves?

Those of us who consider ourselves as 'civilised' (whatever that means) could make a start by challenging the god(s) of the OT who not only condoned but encouraged rape.